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|<ul><li>[[Community Portal/AFD and Redirects|AFD and Redirects]]</ul> | |<ul><li>[[Community Portal/AFD and Redirects|AFD and Redirects]]</ul> | ||
|<ul><li>[[Community Portal/Second Revitalization|Second Revitalization]]</ul> | |<ul><li>[[Community Portal/Second Revitalization|Second Revitalization]]</ul> | ||
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|<ul><li>[[/Magic Function Subcategorization|Magic Function Subcategorization]]</ul> | |||
|<ul><li>[[/User CSS Enabled|User CSS Enabled]]</ul> | |||
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|<ul><li>[[/Questions on (advanced?) wiki syntax|Questions on (advanced?) wiki syntax]]</ul> | |||
|<ul><li>[[/Function Info Template category|Function Info Template category]]</ul> | |||
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|<ul><li>[[/Search Changes?|Search Changes?]]</ul> | |||
|<ul><li>[[/Redirects & Nominated Articles|Redirects & Nominated Articles]]</ul> | |||
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|<ul><li>[[/New Utility Mod - Should I put the docs here?|New Utility Mod - Should I put the docs here?]]</ul> | |||
|<ul><li>[[/script editor wiki links|script editor wiki links|script editor wiki links]]</ul> | |||
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|<ul><li>[[/That Spam Bot|That Spam Bot]]</ul> | |||
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== Finally Fixed the Project:Copyrights Link == | == Finally Fixed the Project:Copyrights Link == | ||
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The [[Project:Copyrights]] link on the Edit page is '''finally''' fixed, as a side-effect of fixing the project namespace. Very happy to see that. I went through and moved all the old project pages that I could find over to the new namespace, and I added a few more links. Very good stuff.<br /> | The [[Project:Copyrights]] link on the Edit page is '''finally''' fixed, as a side-effect of fixing the project namespace. Very happy to see that. I went through and moved all the old project pages that I could find over to the new namespace, and I added a few more links. Very good stuff.<br /> | ||
[[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 01:51, 10 June 2008 (EDT) | [[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 01:51, 10 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
== Architecture Changes == | == Architecture Changes == | ||
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::::::Will ask. | ::::::Will ask. | ||
::::::[[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 09:40, 4 June 2008 (EDT) | ::::::[[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 09:40, 4 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
== Cleaned up Hosted Images == | == Cleaned up Hosted Images == | ||
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Just went through the image log, added <nowiki>{{afd}}</nowiki> to the ones that have no business on the Wiki. Leaving a note here so that if anyone decides to do so again at a future date, they know they only have to go through the ones after this date.<br /> | Just went through the image log, added <nowiki>{{afd}}</nowiki> to the ones that have no business on the Wiki. Leaving a note here so that if anyone decides to do so again at a future date, they know they only have to go through the ones after this date.<br /> | ||
[[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 08:19, 6 April 2008 (EDT) | [[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 08:19, 6 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
== Toolbox for Tutorials == | == Toolbox for Tutorials == | ||
I think it would be a good idea to add a toolbox on tutorial pages with the tools used in that tutorial. That way we can standardize all the "Tools Needed" and "Requirements" sections in each tutorial. On the Wiki pages of the tools we can add some installation instructions, trial programs and alternatives. Next to the TOC would be a good spot, it's only a list with links so there's not a lot of space required. Here's an example of what I mean: | I think it would be a good idea to add a toolbox on tutorial pages with the tools used in that tutorial. That way we can standardize all the "Tools Needed" and "Requirements" sections in each tutorial. On the Wiki pages of the tools we can add some installation instructions, trial programs and alternatives. Next to the TOC would be a good spot, it's only a list with links so there's not a lot of space required. Here's an example of what I mean: | ||
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:Very good idea - I wonder if we should do a similar bit for the scripting tutorials and list all of the "See Also", functions used, [[:Category:Standardized_Snippets|Standardized Snippets]], and articles up top?--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 11:41, 15 March 2008 (EDT) | :Very good idea - I wonder if we should do a similar bit for the scripting tutorials and list all of the "See Also", functions used, [[:Category:Standardized_Snippets|Standardized Snippets]], and articles up top?--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 11:41, 15 March 2008 (EDT) | ||
== New Administration Noticeboard == | == New Administration Noticeboard == | ||
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Sheriff action requests and requests of Bethesda should now go [[Help:Administration Noticeboard|here]].<br /> | Sheriff action requests and requests of Bethesda should now go [[Help:Administration Noticeboard|here]].<br /> | ||
[[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 11:56, 7 March 2008 (EST) | [[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 11:56, 7 March 2008 (EST) | ||
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:There are some functions that need a tutorial/overhead explanation (i.e., Messagebox Tutorial). From the ESF thread, the GetNthActive... functions need one. Looping apparently needs a better one? And from another thread the Input functions need one (though, apparently, it will be moot by v15 :) ).--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 11:01, 7 March 2008 (EST) | :There are some functions that need a tutorial/overhead explanation (i.e., Messagebox Tutorial). From the ESF thread, the GetNthActive... functions need one. Looping apparently needs a better one? And from another thread the Input functions need one (though, apparently, it will be moot by v15 :) ).--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 11:01, 7 March 2008 (EST) | ||
== Functions in scripts category/pages == | |||
There's a category (set of pages?) that lists the vanilla scripts with certain functions. I imagine that all of these were determined with v1.0 and there have been some changes since then. [http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=809919 This thread], for instance, points out one such instance where the function doesn't seem to be there (whether it ever was there). | There's a category (set of pages?) that lists the vanilla scripts with certain functions. I imagine that all of these were determined with v1.0 and there have been some changes since then. [http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=809919 This thread], for instance, points out one such instance where the function doesn't seem to be there (whether it ever was there). | ||
It looks like these functions are easy enough to find (Find Text), and I imagine there are differences between the versions. So, should we delete the category/pages?--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 14:00, 15 February 2008 (EST) | It looks like these functions are easy enough to find (Find Text), and I imagine there are differences between the versions. So, should we delete the category/pages?--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 14:00, 15 February 2008 (EST) | ||
==Deleting Questions== | ==Deleting Questions== | ||
I started the process - it doesn't seem to be as daunting as I thought it would be (hooray for [[:Category:Request an Article]]). Anyway, should we make the decisions on where to put the question (delete, request, etc.) on our own or wait for a second vote?--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 18:17, 19 February 2008 (EST) | I started the process - it doesn't seem to be as daunting as I thought it would be (hooray for [[:Category:Request an Article]]). Anyway, should we make the decisions on where to put the question (delete, request, etc.) on our own or wait for a second vote?--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 18:17, 19 February 2008 (EST) | ||
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==="Answered" Section=== | ==="Answered" Section=== | ||
Everything in the Answered section, in theory, "isn't of real importance to the public" - I vote for whole-sale deletion of everything in the category. I recommend that people go through, give things a cursory glance to make sure that it actually isn't anything useful, and if not, yeah, we can just ditch all of it.<br /> | Everything in the Answered section, in theory, "isn't of real importance to the public" - I vote for whole-sale deletion of everything in the category. I recommend that people go through, give things a cursory glance to make sure that it actually isn't anything useful, and if not, yeah, we can just ditch all of it.<br /> | ||
[[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 15:58, 24 February 2008 (EST) | [[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 15:58, 24 February 2008 (EST) | ||
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[[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 00:28, 29 February 2008 (EST) | [[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 00:28, 29 February 2008 (EST) | ||
== Uploading test mods == | == Uploading test mods == | ||
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::Finally got a chance/reason to test this - we can't upload .esp files... Not sure if it's worth bugging GStaff and <sp?>TS37<sp?>, though. Almost a roll of the dice whether it'd be a better way to get people to upload their test mods.--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 17:18, 2 June 2008 (EDT) | ::Finally got a chance/reason to test this - we can't upload .esp files... Not sure if it's worth bugging GStaff and <sp?>TS37<sp?>, though. Almost a roll of the dice whether it'd be a better way to get people to upload their test mods.--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 17:18, 2 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
== Wrye Changes == | == Wrye Changes == | ||
Okay, I'm sure that this stuff has been talked about before. For sure there was a major effort at putting together portals. But I'm not sure that was a good idea. To some degree it seems that we're now lost in a plethora of index pages (portals + categories + sub-categories). Kind of a lot. | Okay, I'm sure that this stuff has been talked about before. For sure there was a major effort at putting together portals. But I'm not sure that was a good idea. To some degree it seems that we're now lost in a plethora of index pages (portals + categories + sub-categories). Kind of a lot. | ||
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=== Deleting Articles === | === Deleting Articles === | ||
I'm using the Prod (Propose for Deletion) template a lot. | I'm using the Prod (Propose for Deletion) template a lot. | ||
* '''Tutorials''' - There seem to be way too many tutorials. Especially tutorials which are: incomplete, erroneous, bylined, chatty, poorly written, not useful. (The chatty tutorials are really getting on my nerves.) I'm prodding those that don't look useful. | * '''Tutorials''' - There seem to be way too many tutorials. Especially tutorials which are: incomplete, erroneous, bylined, chatty, poorly written, not useful. (The chatty tutorials are really getting on my nerves.) I'm prodding those that don't look useful. | ||
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===Deprecated Articles=== | ===Deprecated Articles=== | ||
I've also established a category and a template for [[:Category:Deprecated Articles]] (and <nowiki>{{Deprecated Article}}</nowiki>). This is for articles that are deprecated for some reason (erroneous, undesirable, outdated, etc.), but which we don't want to delete for some reason (historical, contains some useful info, etc.) --[[User:Wrye|Wrye]] 18:12, 1 June 2008 (EDT) | I've also established a category and a template for [[:Category:Deprecated Articles]] (and <nowiki>{{Deprecated Article}}</nowiki>). This is for articles that are deprecated for some reason (erroneous, undesirable, outdated, etc.), but which we don't want to delete for some reason (historical, contains some useful info, etc.) --[[User:Wrye|Wrye]] 18:12, 1 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
== Colons and Namespaces == | == Colons and Namespaces == | ||
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:::::Yes, very cool - that was the original intent. I'm removing the bits and pieces from the Scripting Tutorial category. I guess the same needs to be done with the Kits tutorial.--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 19:03, 3 June 2008 (EDT) | :::::Yes, very cool - that was the original intent. I'm removing the bits and pieces from the Scripting Tutorial category. I guess the same needs to be done with the Kits tutorial.--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 19:03, 3 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
== Function Listing == | == Function Listing == | ||
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Also, now that I've tried to not use the OBSE version categories I know why I liked them - When a new version of OBSE I tend to play with the functions, all around the same time. When I need a function, I remember that I played with it recently, or which version it was, before I remember what type of functions it was. So, yes, I still like the version categories.--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 13:38, 8 July 2008 (EDT) | Also, now that I've tried to not use the OBSE version categories I know why I liked them - When a new version of OBSE I tend to play with the functions, all around the same time. When I need a function, I remember that I played with it recently, or which version it was, before I remember what type of functions it was. So, yes, I still like the version categories.--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 13:38, 8 July 2008 (EDT) | ||
== COBL (and other mod mentions) == | == COBL (and other mod mentions) == | ||
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::[[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 21:26, 2 June 2008 (EDT) | ::[[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 21:26, 2 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
== 'See Also' Sections == | == 'See Also' Sections == | ||
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:--[[User:Qazaaq|Qazaaq]] 07:47, 18 July 2008 (EDT) | :--[[User:Qazaaq|Qazaaq]] 07:47, 18 July 2008 (EDT) | ||
== Revamp of the 'Categories' links == | == Revamp of the 'Categories' links == | ||
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Hide - ideally it would be nice, and I would love to see people connect any set of functions they wish, give it a good title, and add it to the appropriate function pages/templates. Realistically, there isn't enough input to expect this. Might be nice for big categories, but not really necessary. | Hide - ideally it would be nice, and I would love to see people connect any set of functions they wish, give it a good title, and add it to the appropriate function pages/templates. Realistically, there isn't enough input to expect this. Might be nice for big categories, but not really necessary. | ||
<br>--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 00:04, 26 August 2008 (EDT) | <br>--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 00:04, 26 August 2008 (EDT) | ||
===Categories, smategories=== | ===Categories, smategories=== | ||
Categories on this Wiki have been screwed up ever since Bethesda released it to the public. This has ''always'' been the case. Wrye's been crusading against it for a long time, and from some experiences I've had working on a brand-new Wiki, he's absolutely right. Categories are poorly used on this Wiki and it makes things very confusing for new users. Unfortunately, it will be exceedingly difficult to change anything at this point. Maybe if we had started from the get-go, but even then I'm not sure it would help. | Categories on this Wiki have been screwed up ever since Bethesda released it to the public. This has ''always'' been the case. Wrye's been crusading against it for a long time, and from some experiences I've had working on a brand-new Wiki, he's absolutely right. Categories are poorly used on this Wiki and it makes things very confusing for new users. Unfortunately, it will be exceedingly difficult to change anything at this point. Maybe if we had started from the get-go, but even then I'm not sure it would help. | ||
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:::::--[[User:Qazaaq|Qazaaq]] 07:37, 26 August 2008 (EDT) | :::::--[[User:Qazaaq|Qazaaq]] 07:37, 26 August 2008 (EDT) | ||
== Bethesda thread upload? == | == Bethesda thread upload? == | ||
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::[[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 13:11, 24 November 2008 (EST) | ::[[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]] 13:11, 24 November 2008 (EST) | ||
== Need working examples: == | == Need working examples: == | ||