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Each effect of a player-created potion is determined individually. The formula changes depending on what apparatuses the player uses, whether they're creating a potion or poison, and the effect itself. To make things easier it has been broken down into several pieces. These are all based on [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Alchemy#Calculating_Potion_Strengths formulas found on UESP], and it might be easier to start there and look at the default formulas without game settings. | Each effect of a player-created potion is determined individually. The formula changes depending on what apparatuses the player uses, whether they're creating a potion or poison, and the effect itself. To make things easier it has been broken down into several pieces. These are all based on [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Alchemy#Calculating_Potion_Strengths formulas found on UESP], and it might be easier to start there and look at the default formulas without game settings. | ||
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==Background== | |||
The formula is used on each effect of the potion individually. The formula actually has many variations, but they follow a bit of a pattern that can be broken down into 3 steps: | |||
#Effective Alchemy Skill Level - Alchemy modified by luck, as with all other skills | |||
#Base Magnitude/Duration - Bonuses from the Mortar and Pestle | |||
#Final Magnitude/Duration - Bonuses from the other apparatuses | |||
#*This is the same as Base magnitude/Duration if the player is only using a Mortar and Pestle, or the other apparatuses don't affect the effect's potency | |||
#**Calcinators affect everything. | |||
#**Retorts only affect beneficial effects. | |||
#**Alembics only affect hostile effects on potions. | |||
If you're trying to script this, there are several functions that you'll need: | |||
*[[GetActorValue]] | |||
*[[GetBaseActorValue]] | |||
*[[GetGameSetting]] | |||
*[[GetApparatusType]] (OBSE) | |||
*[[GetQuality]] (OBSE) | |||
*[[GetMagicEffectBaseCost]] (OBSE) | |||
==Effective Skill Level== | ==Effective Skill Level== | ||
Start by finding the [[Effective Skill Level]]. | Start by finding the [[Effective Skill Level]]. Unlike other skills, Alchemy modifications (i.e., Fortify Alchemy) aren't counted and you should use the base Alchemy skill level. For Luck, the final/modified Luck should be used. | ||
Effective Skill Level = BaseAlchemySkill + [[iActorLuckSkillBase]] + ([[fActorLuckSkillMult]] * Luck) | Effective Skill Level = BaseAlchemySkill + [[iActorLuckSkillBase]] + ([[fActorLuckSkillMult]] * Luck) | ||
This is capped to 100 by default, but | This is capped to 100 by default, but it may be possible for future mods to increase or remove the cap. It also has a minimum of 0. | ||
==Figure out the effect type== | ==Figure out the effect type== | ||
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Note that if the player is using a Mortar and Pestle only this is the Final Duration. | Note that if the player is using a Mortar and Pestle only this is the Final Duration. | ||
===Now things get complicated=== | ===Now things get complicated=== | ||
The formula here depends on the equipment the player uses (OBSE's [[GetApparatusType]]), whether it's a potion or poison (OBSE's [[IsPoison]]), and whether the effect is beneficial (i.e., Restore Health) or | The formula here depends on the equipment the player uses (OBSE's [[GetApparatusType]]), whether it's a potion or poison (OBSE's [[IsPoison]]), and whether the effect is beneficial (i.e., Restore Health) or hostile (OBSE's [[IsMagicEffectHostile]] and [[IsNthEffectItemScriptHostile]]). | ||
If the player uses a Calcinator, Retort, or Alembic alone with the Mortar and Pestle the equations are straight forward. Remember that a Retort has no effect on | If the player uses a Calcinator, Retort, or Alembic alone with the Mortar and Pestle the equations are straight forward. Remember that a Retort has no effect on hostile effects, and an Alembic only affects hostile effects on potions. | ||
However, if the player uses a Calcinator and Retort for beneficial effects a different equation is used. Also, if the player uses an Calcinator and Alembic together for | However, if the player uses a Calcinator and Retort for beneficial effects a different equation is used. Also, if the player uses an Calcinator and Alembic together for hostile effects yet another equation is used. This third equation applies to hostile effects on ''poisons'' as well as potions, even though the Alembic has no other effect. | ||
====Using an Alembic alone for Beneficial Effects or | ====Using an Alembic alone for Beneficial Effects or Hostile Effects on a Poison, or a Retort alone for Hostile Effects==== | ||
These have no effect on effect strength. | These have no effect on effect strength. | ||
Magnitude = BaseMag | Magnitude = BaseMag | ||
Duration = BaseDur | Duration = BaseDur | ||
====Using a Calcinator alone for Beneficial Effects (Alembic ignored) or alone for | ====Using a Calcinator alone for Beneficial Effects (Alembic ignored) or alone for Hostile Effects (Retort ignored)==== | ||
You might notice that both magnitude and duration use [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]]. That is not a mistake. [[fPotionT1CalDurMult]] has no effect on potion strength while [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]] does affect the effect's duration. | You might notice that both magnitude and duration use [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]]. That is not a mistake. [[fPotionT1CalDurMult]] has no effect on potion strength while [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]] does affect the effect's duration. | ||
Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
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Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (RetortQuality * [[fPotionT1RetMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (RetortQuality * [[fPotionT1RetMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (RetortQuality * [[fPotionT1RetDurMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (RetortQuality * [[fPotionT1RetDurMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
====Using an Alembic alone for | ====Using an Alembic alone for Hostile Effects on Potions (Retort ingored)==== | ||
Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (AlembicQuality * [[fPotionT1AleMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (AlembicQuality * [[fPotionT1AleMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (AlembicQuality * [[fPotionT1AleDurMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (AlembicQuality * [[fPotionT1AleDurMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
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Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]] / ([[fMagicDurMagBaseCostMult]] * [[fPotionT1MagMult]])) + (RetortQual * [[fPotionT1RetMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]] / ([[fMagicDurMagBaseCostMult]] * [[fPotionT1MagMult]])) + (RetortQual * [[fPotionT1RetMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]] / ([[fMagicDurMagBaseCostMult]] * [[fPotionT1MagMult]])) + (RetortQual * [[fPotionT1RetDurMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]] / ([[fMagicDurMagBaseCostMult]] * [[fPotionT1MagMult]])) + (RetortQual * [[fPotionT1RetDurMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
====Using a Calcinator and Alembic for | ====Using a Calcinator and Alembic for Hostile Effects on Poisons (Retort ignored)==== | ||
An alembic has no direct effect on the strength of the effect, but it does change the formula to | An alembic has no direct effect on the strength of the effect, but it does change the formula to | ||
Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
====Using a Calcinator and Alembic for | ====Using a Calcinator and Alembic for Hostile Effects on Potions (Retort ignored)==== | ||
As with poisons, the equation is changed. This time, though, the Alembic has a more direct effect on the effect's strength. | As with poisons, the equation is changed. This time, though, the Alembic has a more direct effect on the effect's strength. | ||
Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]]) - (AlembicQuality * [[fPotionT1AleMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT1CalMagMult]]) - (AlembicQuality * [[fPotionT1AleMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
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Note that if the player is using a Mortar and Pestle only this is the final Duration. | Note that if the player is using a Mortar and Pestle only this is the final Duration. | ||
===Applying other Apparatuses=== | ===Applying other Apparatuses=== | ||
Again, Retorts only work on Beneficial effects and Alembics only work on | Again, Retorts only work on Beneficial effects and Alembics only work on Hostile effects on potions. Unlike Type 1 effects, the apparatuses' effects are strictly additive, and the formula doesn't change. | ||
====Beneficial Effects (Alembic ignored)==== | ====Beneficial Effects (Alembic ignored)==== | ||
Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT2CalDurMult]]) + (RetortQuality * [[fPotionT2RetDurMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT2CalDurMult]]) + (RetortQuality * [[fPotionT2RetDurMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
==== | ====Hostile Effects on Potions (Retort ignored)==== | ||
Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT2CalDurMult]]) + (AlembicQuality * [[fPotionT2AleDurMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT2CalDurMult]]) + (AlembicQuality * [[fPotionT2AleDurMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
==== | ====Hostile Effects on Poisons (Alembic and Retort ignored)==== | ||
Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT2CalDurMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Duration = BaseDur * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT2CalDurMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
==Type 3 Effects== | ==Type 3 Effects== | ||
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===Base Magnitude=== | ===Base Magnitude=== | ||
This is very similar to the Type 1 formula, but it is not the same. You can find the quality of the Mortar and Pestle in the CS (see [[Apparatus]] for more information and a list of default values) or via script with OBSE's [[GetQuality]]. Effect Base Costs can be found under [[Magic Effects]], on [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Magical_Effects UESP], or via script with OBSE's [[GetMagicEffectBaseCost]]. | This is very similar to the Type 1 formula, but it is not the same. You can find the quality of the Mortar and Pestle in the CS (see [[Apparatus]] for more information and a list of default values) or via script with OBSE's [[GetQuality]]. Effect Base Costs can be found under [[Magic Effects]], on [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Magical_Effects UESP], or via script with OBSE's [[GetMagicEffectBaseCost]]. | ||
Base Magnitude = <nowiki>[</nowiki>(EffectiveSkillLevel + MortQuality * [[fPotionMortPestleMult]]) / (EffectBaseCost | Base Magnitude = <nowiki>[</nowiki>(EffectiveSkillLevel + MortQuality * [[fPotionMortPestleMult]]) / (EffectBaseCost * [[fMagicDurMagBaseCostMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> ^ <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 / ([[fMagicCostScale]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
Note that if the player is using a Mortar and Pestle only this is the final Duration. | Note that if the player is using a Mortar and Pestle only this is the final Duration. | ||
===Probably complicated, but since Dispel is the only vanilla effect...=== | ===Probably complicated, but since Dispel is the only vanilla effect...=== | ||
This type has not been as throughly researched. The second step formula again depends on whether you use a Calcinator with a Retort. There might be other complications, but since Dispel is a Beneficial effect there is only information on Beneficial effects. | This type has not been as throughly researched. The second step formula again depends on whether you use a Calcinator with a Retort. There might be other complications, but since Dispel is a Beneficial effect there is only information on Beneficial effects. | ||
====Using a Calcinator alone (for Beneficial Effects; Alembic | ====Using a Calcinator alone (for Beneficial Effects; Alembic ignored)==== | ||
Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT3CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT3CalMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
====Using a Retort alone (for Beneficial Effects; Alembic ignored)==== | ====Using a Retort alone (for Beneficial Effects; Alembic ignored)==== | ||
Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (RetortQuality * [[fPotionT3RetMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (RetortQuality * [[fPotionT3RetMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
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Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT3CalMagMult]]) * (RetortQuality * [[fPotionT3RetMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | Magnitude = BaseMag * <nowiki>[</nowiki>1 + (CalcQuality * [[fPotionT3CalMagMult]]) * (RetortQuality * [[fPotionT3RetMagMult]])<nowiki>]</nowiki> | ||
==Potion Price== | ==Potion Price== | ||
Price = (EffectiveSkillLevel + MortQuality * [[fPotionMortPestleMult]]) * [[fPotionGoldValueMult) | Price = (EffectiveSkillLevel + MortQuality * [[fPotionMortPestleMult]]) * [[fPotionGoldValueMult]]) | ||
<div><span style="font-size: 142%; font-weight: bold;">Articles in category "Spell Cost"</span></div> | <div><span style="font-size: 142%; font-weight: bold;">Articles in category "Spell Cost"</span></div> | ||
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|<li type="square">[[FPotionGoldValueMult]] | |<li type="square">[[FPotionGoldValueMult]] | ||
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|<li type="square">[[FPotionMortPestleMult]] | |<li type="square">[[FPotionMortPestleMult]] | ||
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|<li type="square">[[FPotionT1AleDurMult]] | |<li type="square">[[FPotionT1AleDurMult]] | ||
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|<li type="square">[[FPotionT1AleMagMult]] | |<li type="square">[[FPotionT1AleMagMult]] | ||
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|<li type="square">[[FPotionT1CalMagMult]] | |<li type="square">[[FPotionT1CalMagMult]] | ||
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|<li type="square">[[FPotionT1RetDurMult]] | |<li type="square">[[FPotionT1RetDurMult]] | ||
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|<li type="square">[[FPotionT1RetMagMult]] | |<li type="square">[[FPotionT1RetMagMult]] | ||
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|<li type="square">[[FPotionT2AleDurMult]] | |<li type="square">[[FPotionT2AleDurMult]] | ||
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|<li type="square">[[FPotionT2CalDurMult]] | |<li type="square">[[FPotionT2CalDurMult]] | ||
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|<li type="square">[[FPotionT2RetDurMult]] | |<li type="square">[[FPotionT2RetDurMult]] | ||
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|<li type="square">[[FPotionT3AleMagMult]] | |<li type="square">[[FPotionT3AleMagMult]] | ||
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|<li type="square">[[FPotionT3CalMagMult]] | |<li type="square">[[FPotionT3CalMagMult]] | ||