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Added experiements that confirm fatigue and luck have no affect on jumping height.
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= Discussions = | |||
I've decided to document experiments used to reverse engineer formulas. Put random discussion stuff here to avoid messing up experiments below. [[User:ABO|ABO]] 20:11, 1 May 2008 (EDT) | |||
That formula makes no sense to me, is that some kind of joke? --[[User:Ronyn|Ronyn]] 18:28, 23 November 2007 (EST) | That formula makes no sense to me, is that some kind of joke? --[[User:Ronyn|Ronyn]] 18:28, 23 November 2007 (EST) | ||
:Looking at the history, Entim maintained the formula, so I doubt it's a joke. Also, the formula makes sense - as the player progresses with Acrobatics, their jump height increases linearly from the minimum to the maximum. It doesn't take account of other game settings, would have been hard to test, and certainly isn't a formula that would be valid in the real world, but it does make sense. | :Looking at the history, Entim maintained the formula, so I doubt it's a joke. Also, the formula makes sense - as the player progresses with Acrobatics, their jump height increases linearly from the minimum to the maximum. It doesn't take account of other game settings, would have been hard to test, and certainly isn't a formula that would be valid in the real world, but it does make sense. | ||
:--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 18:48, 23 November 2007 (EST) | :--[[User:Haama|Haama]] 18:48, 23 November 2007 (EST) | ||
= Experiments = | |||
Feel free to add your own experiments/conclusions here. [[User:ABO|ABO]] 20:11, 1 May 2008 (EDT) | |||
==Does fatigue modify jumping height? == | |||
[[User:ABO|ABO]] 20:11, 1 May 2008 (EDT) | |||
===Theory=== | |||
If fatigue does in any way modify jumping height, it will probably affect the following formulas; | |||
The FatigueFactor (see [[Fatigue_Game_Settings]]) formula as know to be used for damage. | |||
FatigueFactor = fFatigueBase - fFatigueMult * (1.0 - Fatigue/MaxFatigue) | |||
Option A) FatigueFactor has no effect | |||
JumpHeight = fJumpHeightMin + (fJumpHeightMax - fJumpHeightMin) * Acrobatics / 100 | |||
Option B) FatigueFactor modifies total jump height | |||
JumpHeight = FatigueFactor * (fJumpHeightMin + (fJumpHeightMax - fJumpHeightMin) * Acrobatics / 100) | |||
Option C) FatigueFactor modifies effective acrobatics | |||
JumpHeight = fJumpHeightMin + (fJumpHeightMax - fJumpHeightMin) * FatigueFactor * Acrobatics / 100 | |||
===Procedure=== | |||
At the console, do the following; | |||
Turn off fatigue regen | |||
SetGS fFatigueReturnBase to 0.0 | |||
SetGS fFatigueReturnMult to 0.0 | |||
Maximise FatigueFactor effect | |||
SetGS fFatigueBase 0.0 | |||
SetGS fFatigueMult 1.0 | |||
Emphasise jump height settings | |||
SetGS fJumpHeightMin 64 | |||
SetGS fJumpHeightMax 256 | |||
Turn off luck effects and set acrobatics to max | |||
player.setav luck 50 | |||
player.setav acrobatics 100 | |||
Now jump around comparing jump height for different fatigue levels. | |||
If jump height does not decrease, it's option A) | |||
If jump height decreases and goes to zero it's option B). | |||
If Jump height decreases but doesn't go to zero, it's option C) | |||
===Conclusion=== | |||
Fatigue has no effect on jumping height. | |||
==Does Luck modify acrobatics for jumping height?== | |||
[[User:ABO|ABO]] 20:11, 1 May 2008 (EDT) | |||
===Theory=== | |||
The formulas for the LuckModifier (see [[fActorLuckSkillMult]]) are; | |||
LuckModifier = iActorLuckSkillBase + fActorLuckSkillMult * Luck | |||
ModifiedSkill = Skill + LuckModifier | |||
If Luck has any effect on jumping height, it will be by modifying acrobatics. | |||
===Procedure=== | |||
Since we now know fatigue has no effect, we don't need to take it into account. At the console do; | |||
Maximise the LuckModifier settings | |||
SetGS iActorLuckSkillBase 50 | |||
SetGS fActorLuckSkillMult 1.0 | |||
Maximise jump height settings | |||
SetGS fJumpHeightMin 0 | |||
SetGS fJumpHeightMax 256 | |||
Set acrobatics to 50 | |||
player.setav acrobatics 50 | |||
Jump around with luck set to different values | |||
player.setav luck 0 | |||
player.setav luck 100 | |||
With these settings, jump height should be directly proportional to the effective acrobatics. If luck has any effect then effective acrobatics should be equal to luck. If it does not change for different luck levels, then jump height is not | |||
modified by luck. | |||
===Conclusion=== | |||
Luck has no effect on jump height. Additional fiddling was done that confirmed with these settings jump height was directly proportional to acrobatics (at 0, jump height was 0) and independent of luck. | |||