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Places the object at the calling object, in the direction you specify and the distance. If that location is not safe (in the air, in a wall, etc), the object will be placed at one of the other axes or at the object's exact location.  
Places the object at the calling object, in the direction you specify and the distance. If that location is not safe (in the air, in a wall, etc), the object will be placed at one of the other axes or at the calling object's exact location.  


Direction is:  
Direction is:  
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:2 = left  
:2 = left  
:3 = right  
:3 = right  
The placed object gets the same XYZ angle values as the calling object. Note that world objects placed at the player will be tilted if the player is looking up or down (player X angle not zero ... object X angle not zero).


This function can be used with leveled ''creature'' lists as well.   
This function can be used with leveled ''creature'' lists as well.   
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==Warning: Repeated Use Causes Save-Game Bloat==
==Warning: Repeated Use Causes Save-Game Bloat==


When PlaceAtMe creates a new reference to something, that reference is added to the savegame, and in most situations it cannot be removed. If PlaceAtMe is used in a script which can repeat an arbitrary number of times (i.e. every time the player does a specific action), the script will result in save game bloat.
Objects created with '''PlaceAtMe''' are not automatically deleted by the game. (Calling the Disable function only hides the object, but does not delete it.) As a result, they become part of the savegame file and increase its size.


Save game bloat has been linked to extended load times, increasing game instability, and at extreme levels, considerable performance loss.
Use the [[DeleteReference]] function to delete non-actor objects created with PlaceAtMe. This requires running the CS with [[Oblivion Script Extender]] version 18 or later.


Therefore, avoid PlaceAtMe in any situation possible. Use [[MoveTo]] on persistant references instead of the [[PlaceAtMe]] / [[Disable]] couple.
To delete an actor, you can [[MoveTo|move them to]] an interior cell the player is not in, [[kill]] them and [[ResetInterior|reset]] the cell. When the player next enters the cell, all dead actors in the cell are deleted. Note this requires the player to actually enter the cell before actors in it will be deleted, which can restrict usefulness. [[Talk:Common_Mistakes|recent tests]] seem to show that living actors are removed as well.


Most of the time, MoveTo will prove at least as convenient as PlaceAtMe. However, if really ''need'' to use PlaceAtMe in your mod, it would be fair to indicate that fact in your mod's Readme file.
Objects frequently created with '''PlaceAtMe''' and never deleted can result in huge savegame files. Once the savegame file is around 10 megs problems start to arise, including extended load times, game instability and crashes, and at extreme levels, considerable performance loss and an inability to load the game.
 
As a rule of thumb, it's OK to use '''PlaceAtMe''' a finite number of times (i.e., a quest script that runs once and creates 20 '''PlaceAtMe''' objects). It's not OK if your script can potentially use '''PlaceAtMe''' an infinite number of times (i.e., a Summon spell that creates a new creature with '''PlaceAtMe''', an activator/button that creates a new sword).
 
When possible, use different functions to avoid these problems. For instance, for summonings you can create a persistent creature, place it in a remote cell in the CS, and when the spell is cast use '''''CreatureRef.[[MoveTo]] player''''' (note that there's more to summoning, but that avoids the '''PlaceAtMe''' problems). If you need an object to appear, create and place it in the CS, make sure it's "Persistent" and "Initially Disabled", and use '''''ObjectRef.[[Enable]]'''''.
 
If you really ''need'' to use PlaceAtMe in your mod, it would be fair to indicate that fact in your mod's Readme file.


==Getting the Created Object's Reference==
==Getting the Created Object's Reference==
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The refName variable will now have a reference to ObjectToBeCreated.
The refName variable will now have a reference to ObjectToBeCreated.


This reference is only reliable for objects that can't be picked up. Accessing the reference of an inventory-item after someone picked it up can cause a CTD.
This reference is only reliable for objects that can't be picked up (when they're picked up the reference is destroyed). Accessing the reference of an inventory-item after someone picked it up can cause a CTD.
 
Note that [[GetSelf]] won't return the correct reference when used on '''PlaceAtMe''' objects.


==Usage in same frame as creation==
==Usage in same frame as creation==
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pItem.Activate player ;this adds the bow to the player</pre>
pItem.Activate player ;this adds the bow to the player</pre>
that item's script may not run. Wait a frame, especially if using Activate.
that item's script may not run. Wait a frame, especially if using Activate.
==Console Use==
When using PlaceAtMe with the console, you must use the desired item's [[FormID]], not the EditorID.
So, instead of using
player.PlaceAtMe lockpick 1, 256, 0
to give yourself a lockpick, you must use
player.PlaceAtMe 00000A 1, 256, 0
The [[FormID]] can be found on the tab just to the right of the EditorID tab in the Construction Set. This is true for all items and actors, although the FormID tab may need to be enlarged.


[[Category: Functions]]
[[Category: Functions]]
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[[Category: Miscellaneous Functions]]
[[Category: Miscellaneous Functions]]
[[Category: Miscellaneous Functions (CS 1.0)]]
[[Category: Miscellaneous Functions (CS 1.0)]]
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Latest revision as of 02:22, 28 December 2010

Syntax:

PlaceAtMe ItemID, count, [distance], [direction] 

Example:

player.PlaceAtMe Ninja, 1, 256, 1 

Places the object at the calling object, in the direction you specify and the distance. If that location is not safe (in the air, in a wall, etc), the object will be placed at one of the other axes or at the calling object's exact location.

Direction is:

0 = front
1 = back
2 = left
3 = right

The placed object gets the same XYZ angle values as the calling object. Note that world objects placed at the player will be tilted if the player is looking up or down (player X angle not zero ... object X angle not zero).

This function can be used with leveled creature lists as well.

It can't be used with leveled items, though. Leveled items are not supposed to be placed into the world - you can use them exclusively inside containers. Trying to create an item from a leveled list this way will just cause the yellow exclamation mark (Marker_Error.NIF) to appear.

Warning: Repeated Use Causes Save-Game Bloat[edit | edit source]

Objects created with PlaceAtMe are not automatically deleted by the game. (Calling the Disable function only hides the object, but does not delete it.) As a result, they become part of the savegame file and increase its size.

Use the DeleteReference function to delete non-actor objects created with PlaceAtMe. This requires running the CS with Oblivion Script Extender version 18 or later.

To delete an actor, you can move them to an interior cell the player is not in, kill them and reset the cell. When the player next enters the cell, all dead actors in the cell are deleted. Note this requires the player to actually enter the cell before actors in it will be deleted, which can restrict usefulness. recent tests seem to show that living actors are removed as well.

Objects frequently created with PlaceAtMe and never deleted can result in huge savegame files. Once the savegame file is around 10 megs problems start to arise, including extended load times, game instability and crashes, and at extreme levels, considerable performance loss and an inability to load the game.

As a rule of thumb, it's OK to use PlaceAtMe a finite number of times (i.e., a quest script that runs once and creates 20 PlaceAtMe objects). It's not OK if your script can potentially use PlaceAtMe an infinite number of times (i.e., a Summon spell that creates a new creature with PlaceAtMe, an activator/button that creates a new sword).

When possible, use different functions to avoid these problems. For instance, for summonings you can create a persistent creature, place it in a remote cell in the CS, and when the spell is cast use CreatureRef.MoveTo player (note that there's more to summoning, but that avoids the PlaceAtMe problems). If you need an object to appear, create and place it in the CS, make sure it's "Persistent" and "Initially Disabled", and use ObjectRef.Enable.

If you really need to use PlaceAtMe in your mod, it would be fair to indicate that fact in your mod's Readme file.

Getting the Created Object's Reference[edit | edit source]

When used to create a single object, this function will return a reference to the created object so that it can be used with additional function calls.

Example:

scn scriptName

ref refName

begin blockName
     set refName to refCreatingObject.PlaceAtMe ObjectToBeCreated 1, 0, 0
end

The refName variable will now have a reference to ObjectToBeCreated.

This reference is only reliable for objects that can't be picked up (when they're picked up the reference is destroyed). Accessing the reference of an inventory-item after someone picked it up can cause a CTD.

Note that GetSelf won't return the correct reference when used on PlaceAtMe objects.

Usage in same frame as creation[edit | edit source]

If you use the referenced item in the same frame as you use PlaceAtMe, that is

set pItem to (player.PlaceAtMe IronBow 1, 0, 0)
pItem.Activate player ;this adds the bow to the player

that item's script may not run. Wait a frame, especially if using Activate.