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I've tried creating a custom "function" that can be called by other scripts. The basic approach I took was to make the function a quest script, and have the calling script call the function via |StartQuest function_quest|. Ex:
{{Deprecated Article|This article is obsolete since [[OBSE]] has support for [[User Functions]].}}


I have a quest called testfunc that is initially disabled and contains the following script:
=== Introduction ===


<pre>scn testfuncscript
Writing complex scripts for oblivion can be very painful and frustrating. Not being able to write reusable functions that execute directly on call instead of the next frame is one of the major problems (at least for me).


float param1
But Kkuhlmann from Bethesda had a great idea to make a workaround: Quest Stages!
float param2
When you call setStage in a script, the related stage result script will be executed immediately BEFORE the current script continues! This is therefore a great way to write immediately executing function calls!
float result


begin GameMode
I've spent MANY hours to advance this idea to a fully reusable function framework that can easily be used in your scripts.
  Message "start func", 1
  set result to param1 + param2
  Message "end func: %.0f", result, 1
  StopQuest testfunc
end</pre>


In another script, I call this "function":
=== The easy way: Math Library ESM ===
The easiest way to use stage functions is by using [http://www.hazardx.com/details.php?file=68 this ESM Math Library]. It already contains all math functions listed in the [[stage_function_repository|Stage Function Repository]]. To use it copy the ESM file to your oblivion data folder and select it as an additional master file when loading your mod with the Construction Set. By doing this all the necessary setup steps are already done for you. All you need to do to use a function is to call it. You can also add new stages to the predefined function quest very easily in your mod without all the setup hassle.
Be aware that other users of your mod will need the Library too to run it.


<pre>scn testscript
Download: [http://www.hazardx.com/details.php?file=68 ESM Math Library v1.0].


float r
=== Do it yourself: Setup ===


begin OnActivate
* Open any Plugin you wish or create a new one with the Construction Set
  Message "before call", 1
* Create a new Quest called "f" (yes, just the letter "f", nothing more)
  set testfunc.param1 to 10
* Activate the Checkbox "Allow repeated stages". (This is VERY important!!)
  set testfunc.param2 to 20
* Create a new Quest Script and copy the whole FunctionQuestScript from this article into this script. Don't forget to attach it to your f-Quest!
  StartQuest testfunc
  set r to testfunc.result
  Message "after call: %.0f", r, 1
end
</pre>
 
However, the above code doesn't work. The order of the output illustrates why:
 
<pre>before call
after call: 0
start func
end func: 30</pre>
 
This is what it should be:
 
<pre>before call
start func
end func: 30
after call: 30</pre>
 
The problem is that the calling script doesn't wait for the function script to execute, and instead the function script is delayed until after the calling script finishes executing.
 
So is there any way that can bypass this problem without resorting to nasty "wait for the other script to finish" hacks? (I could make the calling script have a GameMode block that would repeatly check when the function finishes executing, but that would be a serious PITA.) I suspect this same problem would've arisen if I had tried creating a function script by attaching it to a persistent object instead of a quest (and calling it via the Activate function).
 
--[[User:Maian|Maian]] 03:59, 18 April 2006 (EDT)
 
 
I'm just kind of brainstorming here, but you might try making a quest, marked "Allow repeated stages" so you can call the stages repeatedly, and make (say) stage 10 be your "function". Quest stage results are executed immediately, while the current script is processing, so you wouldn't have to wait for the results.
 
Keep your variables in your quest script. In stage 10 results, you'd have:
 
<pre>
  Message "start func", 1
  set testfunc.result to testfunc.param1 + testfunc.param2
  Message "end func: %.0f", testfunc.result, 1
</pre>
 
To call this function, you'd do the following:
 
 
<pre>scn testscript
 
float r
 
begin OnActivate
  Message "before call", 1
  set testfunc.param1 to 10
  set testfunc.param2 to 20
  setstage testfunc 10    ; call the "function"
  set r to testfunc.result
  Message "after call: %.0f", r, 1
end
</pre>
 
I think this should work (I haven't tried it).
 
--[[User:Kkuhlmann|Kkuhlmann]] 14:02, 18 April 2006 (EDT)
 
I've been doing this for awhile now with OnActivate functions placed on activators.  The reference you use to activate it acts as a parameter to tell it how to act.  Then when that function is done it activates the calling object to let it know that it is finished and it is time to process the results.
 
So for instance
 
<pre>scn ActivateFunction
ref incoming
 
begin OnActivate
  set incoming to GetActionRef
  if (incoming == CallingScriptRef.Me)
    set CallingScriptRef.Value to CallingScriptRef.Value + 3
    CallingScriptRef.Activate CallingScriptRef.ActivateFunctionRef 1
    return
  endif
end</pre>
 
<pre>scn CallingScript
ref Me
ref ActivateFunctionRef
long Value
ref incoming
 
begin OnLoad
  set Me to GetSelf
  set Value to 0
  Message "I am storing a value of %.0f", Value, 1
end
 
begin OnActivate
  set incoming to GetActionRef
  if (incoming == ActivateFunctionRef)
    Message "Now I am storing a value of %.0f", Value, 1
    return
  endif
  ActivateFunctionRef.Activate Me 1
end
</pre>
 
This removes the need for a game mode block and allows function passing (or setting in a persistent reference).  I've used this quite successfully for some cool stuff I'm finishing the testing on.
--[[User:Tegid|Tegid]] 14:44, 18 April 2006 (EDT)
 
After some experimentation, I've verified that making the function script an object script and attaching it to a dummy object (in activator called testfunc in my case), it works. That is, it satisfies the following conditions:
#It can be called (via |testfunc.Activate player, 1|).
#The function is executed immediately rather than after the script that called it.
#It can be called even in places where the dummy object isn't at, e.g. I placed the dummy object inside an interior cell and called it in an exterior cell. This was what I was most worried about with this approach - that the function would only work if the dummy object is in the same area. I haven't tested this extensively, so it may be the case that it works only because the dummy object is still in memory, but I suspect that's not the case.
 
Tegid, in your example, the called function apparently needs a reference to the script calling it, which defeats the purpose of making the function generic (after all, the main reason for creating a new function is to share code between 2+ functions). Maybe if your script just checked if incoming.Me was set and just used incoming rather than CallingScriptRef, it could work generically.
 
Kkuhlmann, I haven't tried your method yet, but I'm post an update once I do so.
 
Thanks for all the help! --[[User:Maian|Maian]] 21:49, 18 April 2006 (EDT)
 
Kkuhlmann's solution also worked.
 
For reference, here's my dummy object + activate script solution:
 
On a dummy object:
 
<pre>scn testfuncobjscript
 
float param1
float param2
float result
 
begin OnActivate
  if IsActionRef Player != 1
      Message "start func", 1
      set result to param1 + param2
      Message "end func: %.0f", result, 1
  else
      Activate
  endif
end</pre>
 
Calling script:
 
<pre>scn testobjscript
 
float r
ref self
 
begin Onload
  set self to GetSelf
end
 
begin OnActivate
  Message "before call", 1
  set testfuncref.param1 to 10
  set testfuncref.param2 to 20
  testfuncref.Activate self, 1
  set r to testfuncref.result
  Message "after call: %.0f", r, 1
end</pre>
 
--[[User:Maian|Maian]] 01:47, 19 April 2006 (EDT)
 
The CallingScriptRef is just your single point of entry into the set of scripted functions.  It is a persistent reference Activator like your testfuncref.  Also, it has not been my experience that Activate calls interrupt the flow of script parsing.  I was under the impression that the Activate call really just sets a bit so that when that script is reached, the OnActivate block is executed.
--[[User:Tegid|Tegid]] 11:07, 19 April 2006 (EDT)
 
 
I love the solution kkuhlmann has written! This is by far the best idea for immediately executing function calls!
Now imagine this:
 
Create a Quest just called "f" (for "function") with the following script:
<pre>ScriptName FunctionQuestScript
<pre>ScriptName FunctionQuestScript


; Internals
; Internals
short doOnce
short doOnce
float fQuestDelayTime


; Constants
; Constants
float pi
float rad
float rad
float pi
 


; Function In- and Output
; Function In- and Output
Line 203: Line 39:
float fout
float fout
float fout2
float fout2
float fout3


ref rin1
ref rin2
ref rin3
ref rout
ref rout2


;S5 FUNCTION sqrt
;S10 FUNCTION Arctan
float sqr
float t3
 
float t5
;S10 FUNCTION Hypotenuse
float t7
;float sqr
float n


;S20 FUNCTION getAngle
;S20 FUNCTION getAngle
;float sqr
float tan
float x
float y
float sin
float cos
float ang
float ang


; Set constants first
; Set constants first
Begin Gamemode
Begin Gamemode
if doOnce == 0
  if doOnce == 0
set rad to 57.2957792
    set pi to 3.1415927
set pi to 3.1415927
    set rad to 180.0/pi
set doOnce to 1
 
endif
    set fQuestDelayTime to 30
;StopQuest f
    set doOnce to 1
  endif
End</pre>
End</pre>
This is a generalized function framework that can be re-used for as many functions as you like.


And now make stage 5 for this quest with the following code:
* Now create stage 10 for this quest with the following code:
<pre>;FUNCTION float sqrt(float input)
<pre>;FUNCTION float Arctan(float tan)
if (f.fin1 <= 0)
;Approximation by Taylor Series - script by DragoonWraith
  set f.fout to 0
 
else
set f.t3 to (f.fin1 * f.fin1 * f.fin1)
  set f.sqr to f.fin1/2
set f.t5 to (f.t3 * f.fin1 * f.fin1)
  set f.sqr to (f.sqr+(f.fin1/f.sqr))/2
set f.t7 to (f.t5 * f.fin1 * f.fin1)
  set f.sqr to (f.sqr+(f.fin1/f.sqr))/2
  set f.sqr to (f.sqr+(f.fin1/f.sqr))/2
  set f.sqr to (f.sqr+(f.fin1/f.sqr))/2
  set f.sqr to (f.sqr+(f.fin1/f.sqr))/2
  set f.sqr to (f.sqr+(f.fin1/f.sqr))/2
  set f.sqr to (f.sqr+(f.fin1/f.sqr))/2
  set f.sqr to (f.sqr+(f.fin1/f.sqr))/2
  set f.sqr to (f.sqr+(f.fin1/f.sqr))/2
  set f.sqr to (f.sqr+(f.fin1/f.sqr))/2
  set f.fout to f.sqr
endif</pre>


And stage 10:
set f.fout to (f.fin1 - (f.t3/3) + (f.t5/5) - (f.t7/7))</pre>
<pre>;FUNCTION float Hypotenuse(float CathetusA, float CathetusB)
set f.n to ((f.fin1 * f.fin1) + (f.fin2 * f.fin2))
;CALL float sqrt(float input)
set f.fin1 to f.n
setStage f 5
;fout is already the result</pre>


And stage 20:
* And stage 20:
<pre>;FUNCTION float getAngle(float x, float y)
<pre>;FUNCTION float getAngle(float x, float y)
set f.x to f.fin1
 
set f.y to f.fin2
set f.tan to (f.fin1/f.fin2)
;CALL Hypotenuse using same fin
 
if f.tan >1 || f.tan < -1
  set f.tan to (f.fin2/ -f.fin1)
  if f.fin1 >= 0
    set f.ang to 90
  else
    set f.ang to -90
  endif
else
  if f.fin2 >= 0
    set f.ang to 0
  else
    set f.ang to 180
  endif
endif
 
;CALL float Arctan(float tan)
set f.fin1 to f.tan
setStage f 10
setStage f 10
set f.sqr to f.fout


set f.sin to (f.x/f.sqr)
if f.fout > (f.pi/2)
set f.cos to (f.y/f.sqr)
  set f.fout to (f.pi/2)
elseif f.fout < (f.pi/ -2)
  set f.fout to (f.pi/ -2)
endif
 
set f.fout to ((f.fout*f.rad) + f.ang)</pre>
* Okay, the function setup is complete.


if f.cos >= 0 && f.sin < 0 ;Q4
=== Usage ===
  set f.ang to (f.cos*f.rad)
  set f.ang to f.ang + 270
elseif f.cos < 0 && f.sin < 0; Q3
  set f.ang to ((0-f.sin)*f.rad)
  set f.ang to f.ang + 180
elseif f.cos < 0 && f.sin >= 0 ;Q2
  set f.ang to ((0-f.cos)*f.rad)
  set f.ang to f.ang + 90
else ;if f.cos >= 0 && f.sin >= 0 ;Q1
  set f.ang to (f.sin*f.rad)
endif
set f.fout to f.ang</pre>


Okay, the function setup is complete. Now to get the Angle between two objects in a script just type:
Now you've already got 2 functions: One to calculate the arctan and another one that uses arctan to calculate the angle of a vector. To get the angle between two objects in a script just type:
<pre>;CALL float getAngle(float x, float y)
<pre>;CALL float getAngle(float x, float y)
set f.fin1 to ( Object2.getPos x - Object1.getPos x )
set f.fin1 to ( Object2.getPos x - Object1.getPos x )
set f.fin2 to ( Object2.getPos y - Object1.getPos y )
set f.fin2 to ( Object2.getPos y - Object1.getPos y )
setStage f 20
setStage f 20
set ResultingAngle to f.fout</pre>
set ResultingAngleZ to f.fout</pre>
Et voilà, here is your Z-Angle between Object 1 and 2!


the Function executes immediately, it is easy to use and you can put one function for each stage into this quest framework! This is especially handy when you've to work with complex mathematical functions like those [http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=374963 HERE].
=== Conclusion ===


And you can easily share this functions with others since you'll only have to share the code you've put into this single stage!
You can reuse the function wherever you like, how often you wish to and you can even call functions from inside another stage of "f" (aka. another function)!


(This is tested and works. Thanks to Galerion for the Square Root function.)
It is also very easy to share the functions with others since you only need to share the code of the stage result script for your function.
--[[User:JustTim|JustTim]] 18:13, 6 May 2006 (EDT)


Damn, I've once again found a great limitation in scripting: It is obviously impossible to define new variables in a quest stage. It compiles, but they'll always have a value of 0. To get the above sampes to work you'll have to define all vars in the function quest script instead of the stage. i'm testing it further. --[[User:JustTim|JustTim]] 21:55, 6 May 2006 (EDT)
The only downsides are that you have to define all vars in the quest script (it compiles when you define them in the stage result script, but they'll always be 0) and the limited maximum length of each quest result script (which isn't a big problem since you are able to split a single function into multiple stages).


Very cool: You are able to call a function (stage) from inside another function, even if both are part of the same quest! You'll just have to take care that they use diffrent veriables  or the same but not at the same time. This is very handy due to the very limited size of one stage. It is also helpful to call the quest just "f" instead of "function" since you have to write the quest name for every variable you access in the script. --[[User:JustTim|JustTim]] 22:59, 6 May 2006 (EDT)
Many thanks go tu Kkuhlmann for his great idea, to DragoonWraith for the Arctan function and to Maian for telling me that my old functions were completely wrong. :)
The new version of the getAngle Function seems to be very accurate, but if anyone has an idea on how to improve these scripts for accuracy and performance then please contribute!


I've updated the example with a more complex one. It is tested and working!! But it isn't very accurate due to the relatively unaccurate squareroot. If anyone knows how to improve this, please call me. --[[User:JustTim|JustTim]] 10:06, 7 May 2006 (EDT)
=== Function Repository ===


If you are looking for a complete setup with many math functions included then take a look at the [[stage_function_repository|Stage Function Repository]]!


[[Category:Useful Code]]
[[Category:Solutions]]
[[Category:Solutions]]

Latest revision as of 14:12, 17 April 2013


Introduction[edit | edit source]

Writing complex scripts for oblivion can be very painful and frustrating. Not being able to write reusable functions that execute directly on call instead of the next frame is one of the major problems (at least for me).

But Kkuhlmann from Bethesda had a great idea to make a workaround: Quest Stages! When you call setStage in a script, the related stage result script will be executed immediately BEFORE the current script continues! This is therefore a great way to write immediately executing function calls!

I've spent MANY hours to advance this idea to a fully reusable function framework that can easily be used in your scripts.

The easy way: Math Library ESM[edit | edit source]

The easiest way to use stage functions is by using this ESM Math Library. It already contains all math functions listed in the Stage Function Repository. To use it copy the ESM file to your oblivion data folder and select it as an additional master file when loading your mod with the Construction Set. By doing this all the necessary setup steps are already done for you. All you need to do to use a function is to call it. You can also add new stages to the predefined function quest very easily in your mod without all the setup hassle. Be aware that other users of your mod will need the Library too to run it.

Download: ESM Math Library v1.0.

Do it yourself: Setup[edit | edit source]

  • Open any Plugin you wish or create a new one with the Construction Set
  • Create a new Quest called "f" (yes, just the letter "f", nothing more)
  • Activate the Checkbox "Allow repeated stages". (This is VERY important!!)
  • Create a new Quest Script and copy the whole FunctionQuestScript from this article into this script. Don't forget to attach it to your f-Quest!
ScriptName FunctionQuestScript

; Internals
short doOnce
float fQuestDelayTime

; Constants
float pi
float rad


; Function In- and Output
float fin1
float fin2
float fin3
float fout
float fout2
float fout3


;S10 FUNCTION Arctan
float t3
float t5
float t7

;S20 FUNCTION getAngle
float tan
float ang


; Set constants first
Begin Gamemode
  if doOnce == 0
    set pi to 3.1415927
    set rad to 180.0/pi

    set fQuestDelayTime to 30
    set doOnce to 1
  endif
End
  • Now create stage 10 for this quest with the following code:
;FUNCTION float Arctan(float tan)
;Approximation by Taylor Series - script by DragoonWraith

set f.t3 to (f.fin1 * f.fin1 * f.fin1)
set f.t5 to (f.t3 * f.fin1 * f.fin1)
set f.t7 to (f.t5 * f.fin1 * f.fin1)

set f.fout to (f.fin1 - (f.t3/3) + (f.t5/5) - (f.t7/7))
  • And stage 20:
;FUNCTION float getAngle(float x, float y)

set f.tan to (f.fin1/f.fin2)

if f.tan >1 || f.tan < -1
  set f.tan to (f.fin2/ -f.fin1)
  if f.fin1 >= 0
    set f.ang to 90
  else
    set f.ang to -90
  endif
else
  if f.fin2 >= 0
    set f.ang to 0
  else
    set f.ang to 180
  endif
endif

;CALL float Arctan(float tan)
set f.fin1 to f.tan
setStage f 10

if f.fout > (f.pi/2)
  set f.fout to (f.pi/2)
elseif f.fout < (f.pi/ -2)
  set f.fout to (f.pi/ -2)
endif

set f.fout to ((f.fout*f.rad) + f.ang)
  • Okay, the function setup is complete.

Usage[edit | edit source]

Now you've already got 2 functions: One to calculate the arctan and another one that uses arctan to calculate the angle of a vector. To get the angle between two objects in a script just type:

;CALL float getAngle(float x, float y)
set f.fin1 to ( Object2.getPos x - Object1.getPos x )
set f.fin2 to ( Object2.getPos y - Object1.getPos y )
setStage f 20
set ResultingAngleZ to f.fout

Et voilà, here is your Z-Angle between Object 1 and 2!

Conclusion[edit | edit source]

You can reuse the function wherever you like, how often you wish to and you can even call functions from inside another stage of "f" (aka. another function)!

It is also very easy to share the functions with others since you only need to share the code of the stage result script for your function.

The only downsides are that you have to define all vars in the quest script (it compiles when you define them in the stage result script, but they'll always be 0) and the limited maximum length of each quest result script (which isn't a big problem since you are able to split a single function into multiple stages).

Many thanks go tu Kkuhlmann for his great idea, to DragoonWraith for the Arctan function and to Maian for telling me that my old functions were completely wrong. :) The new version of the getAngle Function seems to be very accurate, but if anyone has an idea on how to improve these scripts for accuracy and performance then please contribute!

Function Repository[edit | edit source]

If you are looking for a complete setup with many math functions included then take a look at the Stage Function Repository!