Category talk:Pluggy

Beta? Yea or Nay

As was brought up in the discussion thread, all of the Pluggy functions are currently marked as beta. Is there justification for them to retain this label?

Despite the fact that Elys labels his releases as beta, I'm of the opinion that the tag should be removed, as the beta tag's wording discourages use and implies problems with the plugin. I personally have had no problems with the current Pluggy release, and can't really find any other complaints of instability or bugginess in the Beta 30 release.
--Speedo 12:04, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Nay, I've been using most functions for quite some time now (ingame and outgame) and I haven't gotten a crash at all. Or any big bugs. I'd say remove the beta tag, this doesn't mean Pluggy is absolutely bugfree but any modder that can find this and understands what it does, also understands that there's a very small chance something is bugged. The beta tag puts a bit too much emphesis on 'bugs' (IMO)

--Kyoma 12:38, 18 February 2008 (EST)

I think the best plan is for Elys to have the final say on this, but I agree - if the functions are apparently working and Elys intends to maintain backwards compatibility (i.e. the functions are good for release in a mod), then our Beta tag does not apply.

Dragoon Wraith TALK 13:22, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Elys is a female, by the way (at least, I've called her as such several times and she hasn't corrected me). On topic, she has the final say. I don't think that's open for discussion. Anyway, let's see what she says first.

Given Elys' response in the thread ("Beta: This a version considered ready to be used, with final function prototypes that won't change."), I'm going to go ahead and remove the beta tags here.

--Speedo 14:52, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Updates

In anticipation of the many new functions that have been added to Pluggy, I've moved the functions list into a subcategory.
--Speedo 11:49, 26 February 2008 (EST)

Ooookay, that should be all of the Dev 39 functions. Some testing still needs to be done to clarify behavior on some functions IMO, but the basics are there. Still to do:

• Update Pluggy category page to reflect all the new features
• Article detailing StringTokens (should be linked in all functions that can use them)
• Article explaining INI file format
• Article explaining how to move strings between TSFC and Pluggy

I'll start on that stuff tomorrow if no one else jumps on it, but I'm wiki'd out for today. ><
--Speedo 16:44, 26 February 2008 (EST)

If you'd like, you can wait on the array stuff and I'll take care of it tonight--Haama 13:17, 27 February 2008 (EST)

Alright, I updated the Array Functions. From briefly looking at strings, the 'Oddities' section can be reworded to include both strings and arrays, and still be right, correct?--Haama 15:33, 29 February 2008 (EST)

Yeah, I think so. The only difference I can see that you'd want to point out is that array indexes start at 0 while string indexes start at 1. BTW, I think Elys mentioned somewhere in the thread that in her tweaking she reduced the space that arrays & string take on disk/in memory.

--Speedo 15:56, 29 February 2008 (EST)

As I get time over the next few days, I'm going to finish updating the category page, and I think I'll make seperate "Introduction to Arrays/Strings" articles.
--Speedo 16:27, 10 March 2008 (EDT)

Updates, updates, updates. Thoughts on the new page layout? A good bit of info was chopped from the category page, but most of it was redundant to the new "Introduction..." pages. Main thing left to do now is write the string introduction page. --Speedo 23:50, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Oh, another thought. Should all of the individual function pages be added to Category: Functions and Category: Functions (OBSE)? At the moment only the category page itself is in them. --Speedo 23:54, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

We had a very brief discussion on the Community Portal. We decided to keep them separate, but you're welcome to bring the topic back up. I really like the box up top - I'm going to move the IsPluginInstalled bit into it for a bit better flow. Also, as the Global/Protect information applies to both strings and arrays maybe it should be given it's own introduction? Head-deep in a mod right now, so more later.--Haama 00:22, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

I'd thought about that, and honestly a lot of info is similar between arrays and strings (creating, managing & protection/global, at least). Unless someone has a good idea on how to present it though, I think I'd lean towards just having redundant info in each article. As for the functions, TBH I don't think it matters that much now that I think about it. Is anyone really going to look through a list of 1000+ functions? After all, a quick search for "array" or "string" should find Pluggy easily enough. --Speedo 00:51, 27 March 2008 (EDT)