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== Units per Foot - Challenge of the 6 foot average height == | == Units per Foot - Challenge of the 6 foot average height == | ||
I would argue that 22 units per foot (per the fMagicUnitsPerFoot setting) is | I would argue that 22 units per foot (per the fMagicUnitsPerFoot setting) is a more valid number than 21.33. If a scale of 1.0 at 128 units is considered to be the average height of NPCs, here are some numbers to consider: | ||
[[User:Saebel|saebel]] ([[User talk:Saebel|talk]]) | |||
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! style="background:#efefef;" | <center> Conversion</center> | |||
! style="background:#efefef;" | <center> .9 scale (Bosmer)</center> | |||
! style="background:#efefef;" | <center> 1.0 scale (Average)</center> | |||
! style="background:#efefef;" | <center> 1.1 scale (Altmer)</center> | |||
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| 21.33 u/foot | |||
| 5' 4.8" | |||
| 6' 0.0" | |||
| 6' 7.2" | |||
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| 22 u/foot | |||
| 5' 2.8" | |||
| 5' 9.8" | |||
| 6' 4.8" | |||
|} | |||
Per my research, the average height of the adult male in Europe from the 10th c. through the 19th c. was around 5' 7". Even by modern standards, if you look at average heights worldwide, 5' 9" is closer to a more realistic average. Based on those numbers, 22u/foot is a better fit in my opinion. | |||
I am also curious as to where the 128 units = 6' came from. Was that just a guess or is there actual documentation to back that up? | |||
[[User:Saebel|saebel]] ([[User talk:Saebel|talk]]) 14:27, 27 December 2014 (EST) | |||
Revision as of 14:30, 27 December 2014
fMagicUnitsPerFoot
This game setting defaults to 22, not 21.3. The 21.3 seems pretty accurate from various testing, but it may be that the coordinate system and the magic system are out of sync... or, more likely, that the "feet" in spell area effects is actually not feet as normally defined. What do people think?
Dragoon Wraith TALK 05:06, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
- That's a fairly small difference so I'd assume it's 22 instead of 21.3. Maybe Bethesda is including the Z-axis, so unless your target's origin is at the exact same height as you it'll always seem a little lower?--Haama 12:17, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
Category?
This needs a category (or several), but I'm not sure where to put it. It's potentially pretty important to just about anyone... --DragoonWraith 15:21, 22 May 2006 (EDT)
Fallen Ghost's Edit
Dragoon Wraith TALK 17:37, 30 June 2006 (EDT): Very good, that's probably a better way to figure out the ratio. But please, that was not a minor edit, don't mark such edits as minor in the future. A minor edit is a spelling or grammar fix, or a formatting change. Changing or adding to the information in an article are major changes.
- Uhm... he just added a ".3" to my "21" I think this can be considered minor ;)--JOG 03:26, 1 July 2006 (EDT)
- Dragoon Wraith TALK 13:21, 1 July 2006 (EDT): Oh, I hadn't realized that you'd added that bit about the exterior cells. My mistake, I thought that was him.
White-Gold Tower
how many units tall is the white-gold tower?02:05, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
Units per Foot - Challenge of the 6 foot average height
I would argue that 22 units per foot (per the fMagicUnitsPerFoot setting) is a more valid number than 21.33. If a scale of 1.0 at 128 units is considered to be the average height of NPCs, here are some numbers to consider:
| 21.33 u/foot | 5' 4.8" | 6' 0.0" | 6' 7.2" |
| 22 u/foot | 5' 2.8" | 5' 9.8" | 6' 4.8" |
Per my research, the average height of the adult male in Europe from the 10th c. through the 19th c. was around 5' 7". Even by modern standards, if you look at average heights worldwide, 5' 9" is closer to a more realistic average. Based on those numbers, 22u/foot is a better fit in my opinion.
I am also curious as to where the 128 units = 6' came from. Was that just a guess or is there actual documentation to back that up? saebel (talk) 14:27, 27 December 2014 (EST)