Difference between revisions of "Category talk:Spell Cost"

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:*the differences between the in-game base cost and the CS base cost
:*the differences between the in-game base cost and the CS base cost
:*how mastery levels are determined
:*how mastery levels are determined
:--[[User:RedFault|RedFault]] 11:23, 10 January 2008 (EST)
:--[[User:Skyranger-1|Skyranger-1]] 11:23, 10 January 2008 (EST)


::edit2: actually, after testing more, I disagree with everything you said : ) script effects seem to always cost 1 in my game, regardless of skill, cast-on-target, or radius of effect
::edit2: actually, after testing more, I disagree with everything you said : ) script effects seem to always cost 1 in my game, regardless of skill, cast-on-target, or radius of effect
::--[[User:RedFault|RedFault]]
::--[[User:Skyranger-1|Skyranger-1]]


:::edit3: I changed the linked page (wiki good-ness!) to what I believe to be the correct formula and added and edited notes that I thought were important
:::edit3: I changed the linked page (wiki good-ness!) to what I believe to be the correct formula and added and edited notes that I thought were important
:::--[[User:RedFault|RedFault]] 13:11, 10 January 2008 (EST)
:::--[[User:Skyranger-1|Skyranger-1]] 13:11, 10 January 2008 (EST)


::I appreciate the testing and the fixing. It seems to me that the major differences are the two you pointed out below, but I would like to say that I'm very glad you went ahead and changed the Wiki page. Too few people are willing to do that when they find an error on a Wiki page - you should check out Haama's thread in the CS forum about "Revitilizing the Wiki", your input would be nice there.
::I appreciate the testing and the fixing. It seems to me that the major differences are the two you pointed out below, but I would like to say that I'm very glad you went ahead and changed the Wiki page. Too few people are willing to do that when they find an error on a Wiki page - you should check out Haama's thread in the CS forum about "Revitilizing the Wiki", your input would be nice there.
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:::In-game base cost is invisible and has only one effect: it determines the mastery level of the spell. It's why spells with many low cost effects have different mastery levels in-game than in the CS. (edit: that is for autocalced spells; for non-autocalced spells, in-game base cost also determines in-game casting cost) (edit4: just to be clear, the in-game base cost is the base cost as calculated by Oblivion.exe, which uses a slightly different formula than the Construction Set uses)
:::In-game base cost is invisible and has only one effect: it determines the mastery level of the spell. It's why spells with many low cost effects have different mastery levels in-game than in the CS. (edit: that is for autocalced spells; for non-autocalced spells, in-game base cost also determines in-game casting cost) (edit4: just to be clear, the in-game base cost is the base cost as calculated by Oblivion.exe, which uses a slightly different formula than the Construction Set uses)
:::--[[User:RedFault|RedFault]] 15:45, 10 January 2008 (EST)
:::--[[User:Skyranger-1|Skyranger-1]] 15:45, 10 January 2008 (EST)


::::edit2: the article also needs a description of when and how rounding occurs
::::edit2: the article also needs a description of when and how rounding occurs
::::--[[User:RedFault|RedFault]]
::::--[[User:Skyranger-1|Skyranger-1]]


:::::edit3: I've tweaked the article again to change "effect base cost" to "component base cost" and a few other details, but it still needs more work
:::::edit3: I've tweaked the article again to change "effect base cost" to "component base cost" and a few other details, but it still needs more work
:::::--[[User:RedFault|RedFault]] 16:36, 10 January 2008 (EST)
:::::--[[User:Skyranger-1|Skyranger-1]] 16:36, 10 January 2008 (EST)


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  The above is a transcription of the forum posts by [[User:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">D</span>ragoon <span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">W</span>raith]] [[User_talk:DragoonWraith|<span style="font-family: Oblivion, Daedric Runes; size=2;">TALK</span>]]

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